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Post by survivorsean on Feb 5, 2019 11:58:25 GMT -6
Well I love running and especially dispatching a busy class 1 with lots of traffic. Unfortunately I'm not sure since my move, that I'll be able to continue to do this. Last night I was bored and depressed that I couldn't participate.
But I know losing a connection means resetting all the tags of External Dispatcher, and any planned takeovers you had set in the program. In other words it's a PITA enough to have to constantly reconnect, but then to reset everything is just nuts.
The issue since the move as mentioned elsewhere is I'm now forced on WiFi, and it's causing random issues of dropping the connection. Not entirely but showing "Gateway Not Available" error on the toolbar. Disconnecting and connecting again solves the issue for a while. At times it can last hours, other times a matter of minutes and I'm down again. This is not the environment I want to bring to SRS because as dispatching it will cause issues as mentioned. Even if I can run it will cause issues including corrupt trains that I don't want to invoke on the server.
Unless I find a way of resolving this issue, my MP on big servers time is over. I'm now looking at Scott and I to run, or even single player that is less disruptive. I'm still going to try and resolve this in the interim, but I don't have much hope on the process.
Been a pleasure running with everyone. Hopefully I'll be back sooner than later.
Thanks
Sean
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 12:14:41 GMT -6
Sean, I don't know how much troubleshooting you've done already, but a couple of things to try:
- It sounds like something is interfering with the signal from the router. Look for things that might be obstructing the signal, which might mean an internet search. I have certain walls in my house that block wireless. Other wireless devices right next to the router, or even a whole bunch of electrical cabling can sometimes throw them for a loop. I had a wireless mouse/keyboard which didn't play well with wifi, or with cell phones, for that matter. - Long runs of data cords (>10-15ft for DSL, not sure for cable) from the wall to the modem/router can cause issues, but usually it will just show that you're connected to the router, but not the internet in that case. - You may need to tweak the firmware of your router/modem (depending on which provides your wireless signal). Some devices allow you to switch wireless channels, frequencies, and signal strengths. Usually this can be done from a browser if you know the IP address of your equipment. - Last resort would be calling the telecom company to see if they'll help you, but if you're like me, that option is waaaaay down the list...
Sorry you're having to put up with this, and hope you can get back in the game soon!
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Post by survivorsean on Feb 6, 2019 17:45:41 GMT -6
Well I'm in the basement and the router is above me upstairs outside a door. As I type this all is well full bars and Excellent. What happens is when it does drop internet REMAINS connected, with connection at Excellent. However, it says internet is unavailable. Basically I canceled my Bell Fibe at the old place, and returned the modem. Now I'm on my ex's router and we've reset it at least once (didn't seem to help). The issue with calling Bell is they may not appreciate me being connected to the router I'm still using their cel phone so if they give me an issue I can use that as leverage and tell them I'll cancel the cel phone I know how to connect to the modem/router. I'll take a look at what options I have. It is a Bell 2000. Even if I find a way to connect directly we are looking at over 15 feet of cable to do so We will see. It's actually behaved pretty good in the last 24 hours or so. Thanks Sean
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 8:45:52 GMT -6
I've made 20-25 ft of cabling work in a pinch. It might be worth a try, especially if you have the cable on hand. I have also had issues with an old router that didn't play well with a new service. I have no idea why that happens, but buying a newer one with more frequency options/power could be an answer, albeit not a cheap one.
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Post by survivorsean on Feb 9, 2019 15:40:56 GMT -6
The modem router is what comes with the service. It's pretty much a major phone company (Bell Canada) with fiber optic internet/cable to their 2000 home hub. So it deals with TV, Internet, all in one.
The router is in the upstairs kitchen of my ex (who is now my roommate) and I'm in the basement apartment. The problem is I'm on the opposite end of the house by about 20 feet or so, and no existing way to get a cable down.
When I lived here before (long story short I separated and divorced over 7 years ago and this was our apartment under my then alive ex mother and law) the cable we had came from a different location closer to the corner of the house by the basement bedroom. I may take a look upstairs from it (where I think the old cable box used to be) to see if I can get from there to the kitchen. Either way I'm looking at about 40 feet.
Honestly, I haven't been too concerned about it. It's certainly a bummer for MP but it's not the main thing I do in my spare time anyways. When the internet hangs up I simply reconnect and it usually stays connected for quite a while after that. Until that becomes annoying I'll probably keep things as they are for now and just live with it.
Scott (SMRY) are starting to run sessions where losing a connection is not a big deal since it's just us anyways.
For security purposes I've removed this server from my list. If I can ever resolve this issue then I'll return, until then it's been fun.
Thanks
Sean
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Post by hawk777 on Feb 16, 2019 9:59:40 GMT -6
My experience is that Wifi is often flaky, and Ethernet cable is much more reliable. There’s no problem with distance—Ethernet cable should be able to run over 50 *metres*, apparently, so your proposed 40 feet is nothing!
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Post by mikerice on Feb 19, 2019 0:59:48 GMT -6
The SRS server is located at the end of a 50ft Ethernet cable connected to the main router. I run both of my clients on another 50ft Ethernet cable, with an additional router attached at the end. Nothing compares to the speed of a wired connection that I've found so far. My new office at work is designed specifically for high WiFi usage, it does really well, however it was architected/designed to do exactly that.
Sean, if you can somehow get hard a hard wired connection to the router, I think that's your path forward.
Thanks, Mike
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 10:47:03 GMT -6
That's quite a testimonial. I think the problems I had with ethernet was cabling from the wall outlet to the router on a DSL line. It sounds like going from a cable modem to the computer with ethernet might not have the same issues. Either that or ethernet cabling has better shielding now.
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Post by mikerice on Feb 19, 2019 12:54:49 GMT -6
I've definitely experienced bad Ethernet cables in the past. The two long ones I'm using now have worked great. The server and my client machines sit side by side in my train room, but 100 feet apart via Ethernet cables (2 - 50 feet runs). So I'm a big believer in the wired connection. In my house there's a lot of WiFi traffic (4 laptops, 4 cell phones, 2 wireless TV boxes, sprinkler system, video door bell, a couple of Xbox). It's best all of this great train content gets prioritized on the wired connections.
Mike
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Post by hawk777 on Mar 1, 2019 0:28:49 GMT -6
That's quite a testimonial. I think the problems I had with ethernet was cabling from the wall outlet to the router on a DSL line. It sounds like going from a cable modem to the computer with ethernet might not have the same issues. Either that or ethernet cabling has better shielding now. That wouldn’t be an Ethernet cable at all, would it? It would be a telephone cable, wouldn’t it, if it’s going to a combined DSL modem/router?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 15:06:29 GMT -6
Yes, my mistake.
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Post by survivorsean on Mar 25, 2019 19:12:24 GMT -6
The issue is getting through the ceiling into the basement from upstairs. I'm sure some cable outfits know how to do it, but I'm sure they wouldn't want me sharing it Another alternative might be to spend 100 bucks or so and get one that runs through the power lines of the house (which is all on one circuit box). Thanks Sean
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Post by hawk777 on Apr 1, 2019 19:48:30 GMT -6
If there’s a convenient place that’s visually out of the way on both floors, just drill a hole and shove the cable through? I have done it with a wall, and without even taking the plug off the end, but it would be much easier if you were to remove the plug and crimp a fresh one after running the cable through the wall. But perhaps ceilings are more troublesome than walls.
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